John Maus (Philosophy) References?

[EliTriangle]

Most of his interviews are packed with refrences - from silly films to great philosophers.
I'd like to compile a list with your help. interested?

[possiblegrenade]

Well he brings up Alain Badiou quite a bit, and that's where "we must become the pitiless censors of ourselves" comes from.
This video has many references:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_guDQ37o ... ure=relmfu

Go on his twitter because he has been tweeting things he's been reading.

I'd be very curious to read his dissertation when it's finished.

[hugopresser]

in a few of the interviews he's mentioned the french professor/philosopher Jean-Luc Nancy and Theodore Adorno.
In the recent 1 hour interview, he talked about Adorno's writing on popular music which can be found here:

http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DAT ... ic_1.shtml

[FernandoToerles]

Hi folks

I found a little quote from Adorno about popular music (english annotatzion starts at about 0:55), which might give you an idea about his philosophy and maybe even how John Maus uses or abuses his aesthetic system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd7Fhaji8ow

[olivialeeper]

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[blue7floyd]

That's a brave and funny idea. If you go ahead to create such a list you will get lot of people in the list mostly from celebrities. So it is better we can keep silent. Still I would say there are many interviews can be found as good and really touching. There would be no exaggeration at all.

[oldtown]

he's cited alain badiou on numerous occasions, stating that he had a very large impact on his music from before 'songs' to 'we must become the pitiless censors of ourselves'–which is actually a badiou quote. maus realized that badiou's writings cannot be applied as explicitly as he was doing for ten years and no longer idolizes him in the same way, but, of course, badiou still has a very large influence on him and his work.

[KinkadianAmour]

In addition to everything here, John has studied Lacanian psychoanalysis pretty extensively via Zizek and EGS it seems, including referencing his infamous Graph of Sexuation and calling upon his ideas heavily in in his defense of Ariel's "misogyny". I also feel traces of Lacan's theories on gender and body in tracks like The Peace That Earth Cannot Give, but that's probably just speculation.

I've also seen influences from Agamben and the whole insular sphere of theory that follows around the Frankfurt School. Getting into more speculative territory, he's mentioned The Coming Insurrection, so I can assume he's at least familiar with The Invisible Committee and maybe even their earlier incarnation as Tiqqun, as I've noticed some similarities between their writings (especially Bloom Theory) and some of John's sentiments.

But I should footnote that I use "influence" cautiously, as he seems to get just as much inspiration from rebelling against certain postmodern theorists and ideas as from embracing them, so I could add many more that are seemingly related, but they could very well be related from his complete rejection of them, and it can be difficult untangling which is which sometimes.

[j0rdan]

he's cited alain badiou on numerous occasions, stating that he had a very large impact on his music from before 'songs' to 'we must become the pitiless censors of ourselves'–which is actually a badiou quote. maus realized that badiou's writings cannot be applied as explicitly as he was doing for ten years and no longer idolizes him in the same way, but, of course, badiou still has a very large influence on him and his work.

if that's you in your profile picture, then you look very sad

[oldtown]

he's cited alain badiou on numerous occasions, stating that he had a very large impact on his music from before 'songs' to 'we must become the pitiless censors of ourselves'–which is actually a badiou quote. maus realized that badiou's writings cannot be applied as explicitly as he was doing for ten years and no longer idolizes him in the same way, but, of course, badiou still has a very large influence on him and his work.

if that's you in your profile picture, then you look very sad

time to change my profile picture

In addition to everything here, John has studied Lacanian psychoanalysis pretty extensively via Zizek and EGS it seems, including referencing his infamous Graph of Sexuation and calling upon his ideas heavily in in his defense of Ariel's "misogyny". I also feel traces of Lacan's theories on gender and body in tracks like The Peace That Earth Cannot Give, but that's probably just speculation.

I've also seen influences from Agamben and the whole insular sphere of theory that follows around the Frankfurt School. Getting into more speculative territory, he's mentioned The Coming Insurrection, so I can assume he's at least familiar with The Invisible Committee and maybe even their earlier incarnation as Tiqqun, as I've noticed some similarities between their writings (especially Bloom Theory) and some of John's sentiments.

But I should footnote that I use "influence" cautiously, as he seems to get just as much inspiration from rebelling against certain postmodern theorists and ideas as from embracing them, so I could add many more that are seemingly related, but they could very well be related from his complete rejection of them, and it can be difficult untangling which is which sometimes.

yes, yes; very good reply. i was too scared to go any further than i did, for fear i would come off as annoying by infodumping on philosophy and maus.

[KinkadianAmour]

yes, yes; very good reply. i was too scared to go any further than i did, for fear i would come off as annoying by infodumping on philosophy and maus.

No worries, I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks so, but the biggest draw to John for me is how his work ties into philosophy, and the theories he employs behind the music. So all speculation and ranting no matter how peripheral or tangential is good in my opinion.

Also, thinking back on it I completely forgot to mention Deleuze and Guattari. I have a very incomplete understanding of their theories (though I suspect nobody, not even Deleuze himself, has a 'complete understanding'), but there's two chapters in A Thousand Plateaus, "1933: Micropolitics and Segmentarity" and "1730: Becoming-Intense, Becoming-Animal, Becoming-Imperceptible..." that he seems to reference quite a bit, particularly in reference to how the Church has been a dominant power of segmentation, as well as the process of (im)perceptibility and becoming, but I wouldn't claim to have enough familiarity with the work as a whole to speculate on anything other than its reference. There's also an entire chapter on music following that section, "1837: Of the Refrain", that I've yet to try to tackle but I'm sure there must be some parallels in it. One day.

And of course the pop stars of critical theory, Baudrillard and Debord, have had some minor reference in his interviews in regards to the spectacle and simulacra respectively, but he doesn't seem to be as passionately referential to either, so I'm apprehensive to claim any real commitment to their theories. But they're both so widely referenced that there's no doubt plenty of indirect influence. Though to speculate some more, I'm curious if he supports Situationism at all, as culturally irrelevant as it is now. It's often been in opposition to the kind of work Lacan has tried to do with the field of psychoanalysis, but its approach to "being" in a representational (social) sense seems to line up very well with what John's doing, as well as his politics. But I can't imagine him supporting the elitist shift it took after the May uprisings.

Along the same lines of wild speculation, I'm curious if Manuel DeLanda has any influence in his work. He's worked as a teacher at EGS, has expounded quite a bit on Deleuzian theory, and pulls together quite a few historically disparate but theoretically parallel philosophies that could have direct or indirect influence on his process. And he's certainly had an influence on other contemporary musicians (Lopatin, Hecker, Ghersi, etc.). But that's a rabbit hole that can lead back to the whole of continental philosophy, so I wouldn't dare try to go down it.

Also not a philosopher, but Fernando Pessoa seems to have some influence on John, as he's referenced him a couple times. But more interestingly Badiou has written about Pessoa throughout some of his work, especially his Handbook of Inaesthetics. And telling by his interest in Badiou, I'm curious if his influence is Badiou's reading of Pessoa rather than Pessoa itself, or if it's just incidental. But at this point I'm veering off from the topic so I'll just leave it at that for now.

[Harry]

yeah but what brand of cigarette does he smoke?

[j0rdan]

he's cited alain badiou on numerous occasions, stating that he had a very large impact on his music from before 'songs' to 'we must become the pitiless censors of ourselves'–which is actually a badiou quote. maus realized that badiou's writings cannot be applied as explicitly as he was doing for ten years and no longer idolizes him in the same way, but, of course, badiou still has a very large influence on him and his work.

if that's you in your profile picture, then you look very sad

time to change my profile picture

I was just bugging you, no need to actually do it haha

yeah but what brand of cigarette does he smoke?

newports

[LadyLazarus]

Welcome to the forums, KinkadianAmour. Glad to see some detailed philosophical discussion here once again. Glad to have you aboard!